This musical instrument frequency chart should serve as a reality check for those who obsess about metrics. During the triode era and up until cycles per second (cps) was replaced by kilohertz (kHz), a bandwidth specification of + or - 1dB from 30-15,000 cps was considered state of the art. That old standard actually made more sense if we look at the bandwidth of acoustic instruments in the chart above.
The chart is also a practical reference for all of my speaker/driver/horn articles past, present and future. Likewise, it is a handy visual aid to interpolate the pink noise + iPhone Real Time Analyzer (RTA) app traces even if in most cases they don't correlate to what we hear.😆
In a couple of instances, an RTA trace has agreed with what I heard. In reality though, pink noise and other waveforms used for audio testing have nothing in common with musical notes and harmonies. Audio measurement is very far removed from the dynamic nature of music. To me, the RTA, audio generator and oscilloscope are tools that can be helpful if used with discretion.
Altec 755A in an Open Baffle
My adventure into high-efficiency speakers started with a pair of Altec 755Cs (and later, 755As) mounted on this very same open baffle. It was easy for me to appreciate the lack of boxy coloration, having lived with Quad ESLs for a couple of years.
Most open baffle detractors complain about the lack of bass response. However, the above trace doesn't pale too much in comparison to the Altec 755A + Dr. Bae/Silbatone box and Altec 755A + 618 below, even if it does look ugly!🤣
Maybe the suck out between 250-1kHz is what I hear as the absence of cabinet coloration or the "lack of snap" J-Rob heard?
Dr. Bae/Silbatone Box + Altec 755A
Despite being very compact, this empirically designed box exploits the fullest potential of the 755A driver.
This trace looks better than the 755A + OB above but not as nice as the Altec 755A + 618 trace below.
Altec 755A + Altec 618
[2 cubic foot sealed box]
A pair of Altec 618 cabinets |
The Altec 618 is the classic 2 cubic foot sealed box for the 755. It has to be rigidly braced to minimize upper bass/lower midrange coloration, although some listeners may prefer that "warm" bloom.
Altec 755A in the 618 box |
This trace is the flattest of all three. But subjectively, the Dr. Bae/Silbatone box + 755A sounds more neutral and tonally more accurate. I don't hear the sudden rise from 1 kHz and peaks at 1.5 and 2 kHz.
The Altec 618 box is now loaded with 755Cs and has great synergy with the JLH 1969 clone amp.
The Altec 618 box is now loaded with 755Cs and has great synergy with the JLH 1969 clone amp.
Altec 753C
My exposure to the Western Electric WE757A and WE753C in the late 90s inspired the Altec 2-way project. The sound of those two classic speaker systems was already familiar. They sounded very similar to the 755A with more extension in the low end + airier highs. But what really sent me on a quest to emulate them were: greater efficiency so that I can enjoy my flea powered SE-DHT amps and less congestion (more layering and instrument separation) at higher SPLs. The Altec 753C is the final destination of that journey.
Along the way, the Altec 755A was my loyal guide for midrange accuracy and coherence, which is why I discussed the driver in its various guises above.
Altec 414A in the ported 753C cabinet |
The Altec 414A woofer running in full-range mode covers at least six octaves, from 45 Hz until it starts rolling off in the 3 kHz region. Unlike most drivers of this size and type, this is very smooth-sounding and delivers a great midrange without nasty cone break up modes up to its natural roll off point.
Prior to using the 414A, I had a pair of Altec 419A Bi-flex. I also seriously considered a pair of Altec 416A but both drivers exhibited nasty peaks starting from 1-3 kHz. Now I wonder if those peaks would've been visible using pink noise + my iPhone RTA app?
I could've studied how to filter the peaks using EQ. However, all these extra crossover circuit complications would've adversely affected the efficiency of the speaker system, which I wanted to avoid. In the end, I stuck with my original plan of keeping it simple.
Altec 414A |
Fundamental frequencies below 45 Hz may look rolled off in the trace but the harmonic overtone series (hence, harmonics or harmonic overtones) of the frequencies below the roll off point reinforce the [weak] fundamental in making those lower frequencies audible in actual musical reproduction. The BBC LS3/5A is a good example of a small speaker that "reproduces" low frequencies via harmonic overtones.
My straightforward explanation: A:27.5 Hz played on an upright piano will produce less intensity as a fundamental note compared to that from a nine-foot concert grand because the instrument is physically smaller and the length of string, shorter. However, that upright piano's A:27.5 Hz is still perceived as A:27.5 Hz by the human ear, albeit less visceral, because of the harmonic overtones produced.
Due to the 414A's sharp roll off past 3 kHz, the upper frequencies need reinforcement.
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For many years, I struggled to make the Altec 811 horn work in this context. I started crossing it at around 900Hz @ 6dB/octave slope. Then, I cloned the Altec N1600C crossover, which effectively raised the crossover point an octave higher with a sharper 12dB/octave slope.
None of these crossovers could blend the 414A and the 811/802D coherently to mimic my favorite full-range driver, the 755A. The "shouty distortion" was always present even with a simple 2 uf paper in oil cap + variable L-pad.
After several years of frustration to the point I almost gave up, a fortuitous meeting with the Altec 32C horn opened a whole new world for the better.😄 It turned out that the objectionable "shout" I was hearing emanated from the Altec 811 horn.
The Altec 32C horn + 802D driver combo fill in the last 2 octaves of fundamentals + another 2 octaves of harmonic overtones using the high-pass crossover below.
Sound Practices
I've learned so much from getting to know the Altec 755A, 755C, 414A, 802D and 32C intimately as well as from the other components that I ultimately rejected.
The countless hours I spent assessing and listening to these transducers individually is a sound practice I highly recommend to audio DIYers!
Simple Crossover
Ever since I discovered the sonic delights of paper in oil as coupling capacitors in the signal path of preamp and amp circuits, I've also adapted their use in crossovers.
Altec 753C crossover using paper in oil capacitors + Mills non-inductive resistors schematic |
I've found the RTA to be helpful in adjusting crossover points with the help of a crossover calculator. A simple example: if the sound is harsh, move the crossover point higher. If you need more bite or presence, go lower.
Altec 414A + 32C horn + 802D compression driver
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JP 753C ported cabinet = Altec 753C
If I were to summarize, the Altec 753C sounds lush and romantic!
Driven by 3500 milliwatts per channel of SE-DHT power, these speakers allow me to enjoy Mahler symphonies in my man cave with nuanced macro and micro dynamic contrasts. It gives a middle of the hall presentation which is my preferred perspective. The midrange is warm and coherent with a nice three dimensional quality.
Even if the extreme lows are curtailed, the harmonic overtones produced in this frequency region have enough foundation for big orchestral works. There's a wispy ribbon-like airiness in the extreme top which, to my ears, no longer need help from my pair of Altec 3000H super tweeters.
I probably could've gotten another half octave of bass extension if I chose the 15" Altec 416A woofer, but then I would've run into problems blending it with the 32C/802D horn/driver using a simple crossover. Even if I succeeded in EQ'ing out the peaks of the 416A, efficiency and midrange coherence would've suffered.
Everything is a compromise and I believe I've chosen wisely.
Driven by 3500 milliwatts per channel of SE-DHT power, these speakers allow me to enjoy Mahler symphonies in my man cave with nuanced macro and micro dynamic contrasts. It gives a middle of the hall presentation which is my preferred perspective. The midrange is warm and coherent with a nice three dimensional quality.
Even if the extreme lows are curtailed, the harmonic overtones produced in this frequency region have enough foundation for big orchestral works. There's a wispy ribbon-like airiness in the extreme top which, to my ears, no longer need help from my pair of Altec 3000H super tweeters.
I probably could've gotten another half octave of bass extension if I chose the 15" Altec 416A woofer, but then I would've run into problems blending it with the 32C/802D horn/driver using a simple crossover. Even if I succeeded in EQ'ing out the peaks of the 416A, efficiency and midrange coherence would've suffered.
Everything is a compromise and I believe I've chosen wisely.
Wanted: smooth sounding 12"-15" wide range driver + horn + compression driver
Although Great Plains Audio is still manufacturing the 414 and 802 drivers with alnico magnets, IMHO, the listed prices are too steep to even attract the attention of the DIY community or smaller boutique manufacturers.
I've used and highly recommend their replacement aluminum diaphragms for 1" format compression drivers. I've been told that the GPA 414 doesn't sound like the classic 414A/Z/8B/16B and is 3dB less efficient. However, I don't have hands-on experience with the GPA drivers to confirm any of those claims.
GPA is our only direct connection to the past when transducers were designed using human ears aided by measurement tools. For that alone, I want them to succeed!
Radiotron, 3rd Edition Redux
Wanted: smooth sounding 12"-15" wide range driver + horn + compression driver
I've used and highly recommend their replacement aluminum diaphragms for 1" format compression drivers. I've been told that the GPA 414 doesn't sound like the classic 414A/Z/8B/16B and is 3dB less efficient. However, I don't have hands-on experience with the GPA drivers to confirm any of those claims.
GPA is our only direct connection to the past when transducers were designed using human ears aided by measurement tools. For that alone, I want them to succeed!
Radiotron, 3rd Edition Redux
Let's (re)visit a topic that has served the interest of the entire audio industry, except the bottom-line of this hobby - the enjoyment of music!
Sad to say, no one has heeded D. Massa's advice.
Besides, the test tones used for distortion analysis have no bearing whatsoever to the highly dynamic and complex harmonies contained in the simplest musical score.
Yup, this was 80 some years ago and there still are self-proclaimed audio pontiffs who insist on this metric!🙄
Hi Joseph,
ReplyDeleteRegarding your new 2 ways X-over you've changed the input capacitor from 4uf to 2uf (for your 16ohm drivers) so I wonder if for my 8ohm driver I should reduced my input capacitor from 8uf to 4uf?
If you're happy with your set up, don't touch it. Depending on the music, amp or source, etc. 4uf can be forward and 2uf smoother. Maybe I'll install a switch? At any rate it's not sacred. ;)
DeleteMy real purpose for blogging (and the specific focus of this article) is to encourage people not to be bound to mainstream audio ideas from magazines and forums. Instead, they should experiment and find their own path towards enjoying music!
Hi Joseph,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your reply, I'll try both options and see if I like which setup better
Looking at the flatter chart for Altec 755A in the 618 box, would it make sense to say a flatter profile would be beneficial only if we did not see the mid frequencies dropping under -60 when the Altec 755A in Silbatone Box chart was closer to -48? Would the goal be to flatten the chart by bringing the lower and higher frequencies closer to what the Silbatone box was depicting instead?
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I don't know. Since I wrote this piece, I realized it's pointless to compare RTA plots generated by pink noise because it has nothing to do with the complex tonal characteristics of acoustic instruments, the melodies and harmonies contained in a musical score, and the highly dynamic nature of a musical composition when performed.
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