Showing posts with label Western Electric. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Western Electric. Show all posts

Monday, April 1, 2019

Altec 753C

After many years of raving about the Altec 32 horn, the only stone left unturned was using it as it was originally designed, that is, with the compression driver oriented to radiate upwards.

Last year, I received a message from John Piro, whose beautifully crafted preamp project was previously featured in this blog. He sent me pictures of his interpretation of the legendary WE753C using an Altec 414-16B woofer + Altec 32A + Faital Pro driver

Altec 414A + 32C + 802D + 20275 

I was very impressed and requested if he could build a pair for me. We finally met at the Kutztown Radio Show last September. He and his wife had dinner here at home when he delivered my beautiful cabinets!

A Western Electric 753C used as a monitor at WABF in the early 50s

As an homage to the legendary Western Electric 753C, which was a major inspiration for this project, I henceforth christen this speaker system as the Altec 753C.

Altec 2-way XO redux

I've settled on running the 414A woofers in full range mode (ala J-Rob) and replaced all the crossover resistors with non-inductive 12W Mills. This took away the last vestiges of grain in the upper frequencies.


RTA Graphs

Altec 2-way

Altec 614 + 414A + 32C + 802 with GPA34258

The above RTA was taken from this blog entry

VS

Altec 753

Altec 753 + 414A + 32C + 802D with 20275

I could've lived happily with my Altec 614 or repurposed 861 (aka Madrid) cabs + the inverted 32 horn situated on top. However, with proper horn orientation, the sound was taken to another level of refinement. Now the blend between the 414A and horn is practically seamless and I bask in the airiness of the top end, which I attribute to significantly improved high frequency dispersion, precisely as envisioned by Western Electric engineers.

In spite of the stellar midrange performance of the Open Baffle mounted Altec 755As, I started the Altec 2-way project in the late 90s to address the following issues:

1. More efficiency
2. Extend the frequency extremes
3. Less congestion in dynamic peaks with complex musical passages

After 20-some odd years, those goals have been realized. The Altec 753C is pretty much end game!


Thanks to my buddy Joe Roberts, who explained the intricacies of proper 32 horn orientation. The idea was carefully stored in my mind. I just had to wait for the right opportunity to implement it. And of course, a big thanks to my friend John Piro (aka RCA NUT), craftsman extraordinaire!

Let's hear some music. 😊









Friday, February 15, 2019

Altec 32 Horn Nomenclature

This Altec 32 horn update was prompted by this must read article from Electravolt tracing how the Altec 32 horn evolved from the Western Electric 32A.

Altec 32A

Cast aluminum + longer throat


Altec 32B

Plastic + shorter throat
pics borrowed from sound-impression


Probably a very short run, rarely seen in the market
Note: no ribs


Altec 32C

Same as 32B but with re-enforcing ribs

Note: re-enforcing ribs






Saturday, September 1, 2018

Azzolina Audio KS12024

Western Electric KS12024

Western Electric KS12024
Note: ~ 140° throat bend

The Western Electric KS12024 is a 2-piece cast aluminum 4-cell sectoral high frequency (800-1000Hz cut-off) horn with a 50°H x 40°V dispersion pattern. It was implemented in the Western Electric L-8  and L-9 speaker systems.

Western Electric L-8
from the Silbatone Collection

Western Electric L-8  = 1 x WE754A + 1 x KS12024 + 1 x WE713B (phenolic diaphragm)

Western Electric L-9

Western Electric L-9 = 2 x WE754A + 2 x KS12024 + 2 x WE713B

Western Electric L9
(Note: 2 x WE713B)

Images were taken from J-Rob's KS12024/Western Electric L-8 post at Hifi Haven. If you want to learn more about the Western Electric L-8 and L-9, you can download the pdf file at the bottom of Joe's post.

Read about J-Rob's musings (post #125) about the original KS12024 and Azzolina repro at Hifi Haven.

Late 40s Western Electric Brochure
from www.hifilit.com

The KS12024 horn was from the same era as the WE32A horn that included the venerable WE757A studio monitor, WE713x compression drivers, WE755AWE756A and WE728B direct-radiator speakers.

Having been a long-time user of the Altec 755A, Altec 32A/C and more recently an Altec 756B, I consider this period as the golden age of design and manufacture of permanent magnet transducers. So when J-Rob offered to loan his personal pair of Azzolina Audio 3-D printed KS12024 horns for me to blog about, it was a privilege and opportunity difficult to pass up.

Azzolina Audio KS12024


I've been a frequent visitor to the ElectraVolt blog but never imagined I would be listening to, let alone reviewing, Charles Michlin's KS12024 reproductions. 


The original Western Electric KS12024 has a 0.7" round opening* but this Azzolina remake was optimized for 1" compression drivers like the Altec 802 that I am using for this review. As relayed by J-Rob, Charles claims the oval (rather than round) aperture sounds better. 

*All the WE horns from this era (including the 32A) were designed for use with the WE713x compression drivers and shared the same aperture size


Just like the original, this is also a true 4-cell compound sectoral horn. AFAIK, this is the model built from an amorphous plastic material. Everything else you need to know about the Azzolina KS12024 can be found here.

Testing

Altec 414A/614 + Azzolina KS12024/802 + 3000H

The Azzolina KS12024 horns were tested in the Altec 2-way system. 

Altec 414A in 614 cab 

Altec 414A woofers in 614 bass reflex enclosures running in full range mode

High-pass XO w/HF eq

Altec 802-8D compression drivers (below) with 16 ohm GPA 34852 diaphragms were mounted to the horns using the above high-pass crossover


Amorphous Plastic Azzolina KS12024 vs. Plastic Altec 32C


Altec 32C + Altec 802

This horn presents a back row perspective and may sound too laid back to those who prefer a closer to the stage presentation. The mid-range is juicy, full and vivid without a hint of shout. While the highs are feathery smooth, silky and airy, which I've only heard from its smaller sibling, the Altec 3000H. Tish (my wife) describes this horn as sublime. I think the 90°H x 40°V dispersion helps provide that holographic and lush atmosphere. 

I've written so much about this horn. Just use the search button on the right hand corner to find past entries.


Azzolina KS12024 + Altec 802

I was initially lured into the 3D-like midrange this horn produced and that lingered on. There's an uncanny realism to male and female vocals as well as musical instruments that renders an "in your room" presence. Compared to the 32C, this horn offers a front row perspective. Yet there isn't a trace of harshness or shout. Definitely a horn that will appeal to those who find the 32C too laid back yet need a horn that doesn't sound like a horn.

It is superior to the 32C in terms of articulation and detail without ever sounding analytical. There's a lot of snap, if I may borrow a term from its owner 😉, just like its stable mate - the WE/Altec 755A.

Azzolina KS12024 + Altec 802 + Altec 3000H

Tish thinks it is as good as but not quite as lush as the Altec 32C. I agree. This is primarily a tonal balance issue. Due to the prominent midrange, the extreme treble frequencies are slightly subdued giving a less airy atmosphere. Adding the Altec 3000H to fill in the uppermost octave helped in approximating the lushness of the 32C. But I still found myself wanting more "hall sound." I speculate that the KS12024's narrower 50° horizontal dispersion contributes to the comparatively austere background. Perhaps I am belaboring this point since my personal preference when I attend concerts is to sit towards the back row so I can relish equal amounts of direct and reflected sound.

Summed up

2 x KS12024 = 100° H x 40° V

These two horns share the same sonic DNA but are genetically modified for different applications. The more up-front and involving Azzolina KS12024 betrays its theatre heritage versus the mellower 32C, which was intended for near-field monitoring. I can't help but wonder if a horn design combining the virtues of both designs is a possibility.








Thursday, February 1, 2018

Altec 32A, 32C, Emilar EH1210, EH800, EH500 and Faital Pro STH100




This is a cumulative report on horns I listened to and tested from May 2016 until the end of 2017. All the tests were done through the mono hifi rig using the above Altec 802 compression driver fitted with a GPA 34852 diaphragm + an Altec 414A in a repurposed Altec 861 cabinet running in full-range mode tied together by a 6dB/octave high pass crossover/EQ hinged at 2500 Hz. 

Altec 32A and 32C


Altec 32A (top)
Altec 32C (bottom)

 The Altec 32A (metal) and 32C (plastic with ribs) horns are lineal descendants of the Western Electric 32A horn as found in the WE753 speaker system. I've had the plastic 32C since '09 and lived with the metal 32A for over a year and can say that these are the most sophisticated native 1" horns I've heard and owned to date.

Altec 32A


Altec 32A

Altec 32A + 802 + 414A

Altec 32C


Altec 32C

Altec 32C + 802 + 414A


Metal or plastic? 


It's ironic that the later plastic 32C sounds more vintage than the earlier metal 32A. Definitely, the longer throat of the earlier 32A and the type of material used for construction influence the sound. But in what capacity, I cannot surely define. The iPhone RTA results reinforce the cooler and more modern sound I hear from the metal 32A versus the warmer and sweeter plastic 32C.

The magnitude of difference is not great. Similar to the 20275 vs. 34852 Altec 1" aluminum diaphragms - distinct enough not to be used as a stereo pair but still excellent performers in their own right. However, those who are expecting a front-row presentation may find both these horns too laid back.

Watch out for roughly finished throat edges in the 32A which are detrimental to performance. So far all the plastic 32Cs I've seen have very smooth throats.

Emilar 


As soon as I landed in the US in May 2016, I tried to collect the Emilar horns talked up by Joe Roberts in his war against the devil's trumpets before they became unaffordable. 😉

EH1210


Emilar EH1210

Emilar EH1210 + 802 + 414A

This wasn't recommended by J-Rob but it was cheap enough to try. The EH1210 has the most extended high frequency response according to the iPhone RTA but subjectively it was the least refined sounding horn in this group. I think one can do much better with some modern offerings, see the last entry below. 

Emilar "Bowtie" EH800 and EH500


Emilar EH500 (left) + Emilar "Bowtie" EH800 (right)

WARNING: these two Emilar horns are heavy cast jobs, doing the audiophile knuckle test can result in serious injury! 😃

EH800


Emilar "Bowtie" EH800 

EH800 + 802 + 414A

If you are looking for a modern sounding horn with a more forward presentation but without the shout and distortion of the Altec 811, then this is the horn for you. Exciting sound but guaranteed not to make your ears bleed. 

I think the low end cut-off at 800 Hz spec is a bit optimistic. For maximum satisfaction start around 1200 Hz and work upwards.

EH500


EH500

EH500 + 802 + 414A

This is a native 2" horn with a finely machined 1" - 2" throat adaptor. Once again I find the 500 Hz cut-off an overestimation for a horn of this size. I'd start crossing around 900 Hz and up. 

My ears do not agree with the iPhone RTA. I found this horn to be mellower than the EH800 "Bowtie." The tonal balance of the EH500 is somewhere in between the Altec 32A/B/C and the EH800.

EH500 in Large Format Mode


EH500 sans adaptor + Renkus-Heinz SSD3301

With the JEL N1600 XO in tow, I removed the 1"-2" throat adapter and bolted the 2" exit Renkus-Heinz SSD3301 directly to the horn to sample large format tones. I got juicy mids and smooth highs from this combo.

Late addition:


Faital Pro STH100


Faital Pro STH100

I wanted to sample what can be had off the shelf at Parts Express for under $100 and ordered a pair of these small aluminum tractrix horns by Faital Pro.

STH100 + 802 + 414A*

*RTA was done at a later date in another location,
hence the difference in low frequency response 

With the Altec 414A running full range and the STH100/802 combo crossed at approximately 2500 Hz, I got very clean (if a bit dry) high frequency harmonic augmentation with no nastiness at all. To my ears, this tractrix horn is preferable to the EH1210.

CODA


For the past 4 years, I've been blogging about horns and compression drivers. Justifiably, the horn/driver combo seasons the speaker system's sonic flavor. However, these components only cover the upper three octaves of the audio band (mostly harmonic overtones). I would be remiss if I didn't stress the greater importance of the Altec 12" 414 woofer/midrange because it is tasked to reproduce most, if not all, of the fundamental notes in music from 30 Hz to 4000 Hz. That's seven octaves, practically the frequency range of a piano.  

I've been trying, but so far haven't found alternative 15" or 12" woofers that play the midrange as well as the Altec 414. The good news is, Bill Hanuschak of Great Plains Audio told me last year that they still re-cone 414s and their product page lists an Alnico 414-8B(16B)